In this reflection episode, Carl debriefs from his recent conversation with Jordan de Jong, founder of Australia’s largest online property portfolio mapping software, Gameplans. He reflects on the impressive transformation Jordan has undergone in a relatively short period.
Carl emphasises Jordan’s ability to shift his business and work-life balance drastically, moving from 12-hour workdays to dedicating only three hours a day to work. Jordan’s journey is a testament to the power of personal transformation, highlighting how one can make substantial changes in various aspects of life with the proper guidance and commitment.
Carl also delves into practical business insights, discussing the concept of 10x thinking, inspired by Dan Sullivan’s book. He touches on the idea that building a million-dollar business versus a billion-dollar business requires the same effort but different levels of thinking.
The episode concludes with Jordan’s message to his younger self, encouraging listeners to embrace life fully. You will be challenged to consider your own goals, determine the level of effort required to achieve them, and commit to playing the best game you can possibly play.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL DISCOVER…
- The early days of Jordan de Jong’s business and how he was able to shift his mindset towards work life integration (00:22)
- Biggest takeaways from Jordan’s episode: the power of personal transformation if you choose to work on it (02:35)
- How to 10x rather than 2x (04:01)
- How entrepreneurship often takes a toll on one’s personal life (05:15)
- The biggest message from Jordan: Play the best game you can possibly play (07:21)
- What Jordan’s property modelling software company, Gameplans, is all about (08:39)
QUOTES
- “The level of thinking that gets you to a million dollar a year business or a $2 million a year business is very different to what’s going to be required to get you to a 10, 20, 100 million dollar, billion dollar business.” – Carl Taylor
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TRANSCRIPTION
When you’re feeling fearful, when you’re feeling scared, when you’re feeling stuck, to just go, hey, okay, if I was to play flat, if I was going to really go for something, what would this look like? And for some, that’s wealth, success, for others, that’s serving and giving back to community. There are so many different ways. And for others, if you understand things, you can make a lot of money and you can give back and you can do that all together in one.
Welcome to another episode of the show. In this episode, I am debriefing from our great conversation earlier the week with Jordan de Jong. I don’t know if I pronounced that right. I know I just was speaking to him, but I’ve already kind of forgotten. I know the J is silent.
This is the guy that I’ve known for less than a year, probably six months, really. But in that time, he has really thoroughly impressed me on numerous fronts. On the way he’s been able to show up and shift his business, and how he shows up in business, like how easily he takes on feedback and changes things and implements them for him to have gone from when he started his business, we talked about how he was spending twelve hour days in the business. And then the fact that was then impacting, he realised, while he and his wife weren’t fighting, he realised that, oh, I don’t really have that connection with my wife in the way that I used to, and I don’t really know my daughter because I’ve just been so engrossed in work. And so how he was able, he’s been able to shift things now.
And now he’s really crafted a life and business, what I call work life integration, 3 hours, really a day now is what he puts into his work. And he’s got plenty of time to spend with his wife, with kids, and to go and make sure he works out and does other things that bring him joy. It’s just a huge hats off to him. And then realising that he’d put on all this weight from sitting there working and he’s gone and lost weight. He’s just a real inspirational dude in terms of showing what’s possible for a man or a dad to go, hey, I can see that what I’m doing is no longer working and I’m going to change it and I’m going to listen to the people who can support me through that journey.
And I’m very grateful and lucky that I get to be one of those people who has helped him a little bit in his journey. Do not take credit. He’s the one who’s done the work. He’s the one that asked questions, and I just got to be a very small part of that. But it’s so incredible. So if you haven’t listened to the episode, it’s really us unpacking his journey of what led him to start his business, which was actually the birth of his child, how he went through that and everything that’s unfolded, it’s just a really great, natural conversation.
The other thing that I really respect about Jordan is his heart. He’s a real, genuine dude. He shows up wanting to serve, wanting to help, and genuinely wants to connect with people. And it’s funny. Like, he loves having a chitchat. And yet, by his own admission in the episode, he said that he is an introvert. And it’s just an interesting, fascinating dynamic that he is an amazing man.
So what were some of my biggest takeaways from our conversation? Well, apart from the fact that it just being absolute proof of what a man can do in a short period of time, when he gets the right advice and has a willingness to execute and makes the commitment to himself to change what he’s been able to do in a short period of time, at least from changing his hours. I mean, he’s had an incredible growth journey from business as well in that time as well. But being able to shift the amount of hours he’s working, the weight he’s been able to lose, getting himself healthy, reconnecting with his wife, and, getting to know his daughter, I think that is just a testament of the power of personal transformation that is possible for you, listener, watcher, if you are a dad as well, maybe in a situation similar to how he started, if you’re there going like, I just don’t know if I can change. You can. He’s a poster boy of showing just how much of a short time things can change if you choose to put in the work to do it. And so for me, that’s very rewarding in terms of what we’re doing at Dadpreneur, where we’re helping men with those key areas, right? We’re helping them with their business and getting them to work less hours. We’re helping them in their relationships and rekindling the passion and bringing back that connection and also being there for their kids and actually being a role model for their kids and then their health and losing weight and getting fit and healthy and getting their energy back and then ultimately building wealth, a couple of things that really stood out, though.
If we get in practical business mode for a second, the idea of going, how do I. Ten x rather than two x. We talked about a book, 10x is better than 2x, which is by Dan Sullivan. And the general principle here is like, for him, he’s like, well, instead of going, hey, I’m getting ten leads a week right now, how do I get them to 20? He’s going, all right, if I’m getting ten leads a week, what would really have to happen for me to like ten x? It’s to be getting hundreds of leads a week. What would make me completely transform this industry? And so he’s got him thinking on a bigger level. one of the quotes he said, he said, he didn’t remember who said it, but it’s like building a million dollar business, and building a billion dollar business requires the same amount of effort. It’s just a different level of thinking that gets you there. Now, I don’t have a billion dollar business, so I can’t speak to that and to how true that is. I have a million dollar business. And I do wonder if that’s entirely, if that statement is entirely true. But I like what it points to, whether it’s actually true or not. What it points to is that there is a different level of thinking, right. The level of thinking that gets you to a million dollar a year business or a $2 million a year business is very different to what’s going to be required to get you to attend 2100 million dollar, billion dollar business.
Many years ago, I had a conversation with a friend. Many entrepreneurs, we idolise the idea of the Steve Jobs and, Richard Branton’s and the people of this world, the Elon Musk. I want to be like them. I want to change the world the way they have. And we talked about how often for those men, they sacrificed their life to make those changes for the world. They sacrificed their life for the world, right. Usually their relationships are terrible. They’re not what you want to model in terms of home life. They might be these amazing business people. I mean, even Warren Buffett. I remember watching a documentary on a plane once about Warren Buffett, and it was interviews with his kids and his wife, or ex wife, technically, and, you know, them talking about their experience of living with Warren Buffett. If you don’t know who Warren Buffett is, he’s probably well known as probably the smartest investor of all time. One of the wealthiest men in the world. Berkshire Hathaway is the company that he has that he invests and he manages a lot of money. He’s just idolised in his ability to make money. And yet these interviews with these kids were like, they don’t know their kids, they don’t know their dad. It was not a happy look at him as a man for his whole life. But what it’s pointing to here is what his quote of it, the same effort required to make a million dollar business or a billion dollar business. It’s about deciding what you want. I think better would be like the same effort to build $100,000 business, to build a million dollar business. I think there’s a lot of truth in that. I’m sure there could be truth to the billion dollar side of things, too. Although at the billion dollar side, you’re probably. My belief system is you would be sacrificing more of your life than I’m personally prepared to do. But time will tell. Maybe I’m wrong. So that was another really cool takeaway that was shared. I thought it was interesting, too. He touched on that. He does the carnival diet and he eats only once a day. We didn’t delve into it. I probably wish I had delved a little deeper into it to understand why he does that. But it just, again goes to show there’s so many different ways you can kind of skin a cat, if you like, to achieve your goals.
Ultimately, the biggest message that he left, I asked him at the end, what would you whisper to that earlier version of Jordan, who had his daughter just there in his arms, and he’s thinking about, should he start a business? What should he do? He said he would whisper, just do it. And he talked about how Jordan Peterson has this thing of like, we’re all in, in this life, we’re here, we’re going to die. This life is going to kill us. We are going to die one day. So you may as well play full out play and know play the best game you can possibly play while you’re here, because you’re going to die anyway. It’s going to happen. And I think there’s a poetry in that concept, but it really is a great way when you’re feeling fearful, when you’re feeling scared, when you’re feeling stuck, to just go, hey, okay, if I was to play flat, if I was going to really go for something, what would this look like? And for some, that’s wealth, success, for others, that’s serving and giving back to community. There are so many different ways. And for others, if you understand things, you can make a lot of money and you can give back and you can do that all together in one.
So that’s a bit of a rundown of my biggest takeaways from my conversation with Jordan. If you want to learn more about Jordan, you can find his socials in the show notes and you can also find his company that he runs. So while we had this great conversation about his entrepreneurial journey, he does run an amazing company called gameplans.com au. It is a property modelling software, if you like, for planning out your property portfolio. So if you own multiple investment properties and you want to build an investment portfolio, I do recommend taking a look at gameplans.com. Au because you can sign up, create an account and you can plan out and model different scenarios. I personally use his software. It’s allowed me to plan out and decide which property strategy I personally want to use to achieve my goals. At the time, I was in this conundrum of like, do I go negatively geared? Which for the Americans that basically means properties that lose money but have a tax benefit, which is the majority of the Australian property market in residential, just so you know, at the time of recording. Or do I go for the lower priced, higher yield cash flow properties? They don’t, generally get the same amount of capital growth, but they do have cash flow. Or do I go commercial only? Do I do a mix of it all? And so I was able to run all these different scenarios and I think I ended up modelling about six different scenarios over the next 30 years with the different strategies at play so I could make a decision as to which one was going to be easiest for me to execute, going to have the biggest impact to my net worth and my ongoing cash flow for passive income. Ongoing. And I wouldn’t have been able to achieve that in just a conversation. I wouldn’t have been able to achieve that just by myself. I was only able to achieve that by using jordansoftwaregameplans.com. So do recommend checking that out. All right, I’m going to wrap this episode here and I’ll see you on the next one. Bye.
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